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Post game

Really don’t want to hear the same excuses so I’m opting out. What an embarrassing performance on defense. I really hope it’s not the same bs we hear after every loss. Give us an explanation of why we saw this team shit themselves.

Rocco, you the man. With those numbers we should have destroyed them. Higgins, another dawg! Unfortunately half the team decided to not show up. We have a real mess on our hands next September if they don’t find some DBs that know what the F to do. It’s real easy to see which ones don’t grasp their assignments in different situations. You can be the most athletic person on the planet but if you don’t know your assignment, you’re only talent will be running down your guy who is streaking to the end zone.

Bowl Games are where fans and scouts are watching these players with eagle’s eye view. Higgins really put on a show and I loved seeing Ngoyi make a nice grab.

Gambling, in hindsight

Wasn't the whole gambling ordeal a net positive for ISU?

We didn't spend 6 to 12 games fiddle-flatulating around trying to decide if Dekkers was still our QB moving forward.

Brahhmer answered the call at tight end and now has a solid year of experience behind him.

Maybe I'm forgetting some key player losses.

I think the whole situation created more angst for the fans this summer than the team.

What I don't get

Pink Floyd. I don't get Pink Floyd. I could probably name three Pink Floyd songs, but it would be a struggle after Another Brick in the Wall. The reason I bring it up is because I was looking at the best-selling albums of all time and Pink Floyd has three in the top 50, including No. 4 overall. That ties with the Beatles, another group I don't get, but that's for another day. Michael Jackson has the most with five and also the top seller with Thriller at nearly 70 million copies. Celine Dion has four in the top 50 or so and Whitney Houston and Madonna both also have three to tie with the Beatles and Pink Floyd. I have just never been a big fan of Pink Floyd. Their music is moody and dreary. I'd just rather listen to something upbeat, I guess. I would have never guessed that Pink Floyd had more albums at the top of the list than super groups like the Rolling Stones or Led Zeppelin or even the Eagles, for crying out loud.

Memphis fans paid it forward for our meal after the game!

Sometimes we do not hear the good news, so I’ll share our experience last night at dinner after the game.

Wife & I stayed over (going to Graceland today !& maybe the Civil Rights Musem) at Huey’s during dinner last night, 3 Memphis couples dressed in Tigers attire engaged us in a very friendly way about the game. They told us that their D had been horrible throughout the season, that Memphis had a new DC (promoted their LB coach) for the game yesterday and that he totally changed their defensive approach. And get this—when we went to pay the bill, our server told us that those 3 couples had already paid for ours! We spent more time talking to them afterwards—very nice folks!

CYGARIN RATINGS UPDATE - LIBERTY BOWL

Here is the Cygarin Ratings analysis for the 2023 Liberty Bowl.

Bowl games are always a challenge to predict because the bowl season is in and of itself a whole new season with a lot of variables that are unique compared to the regular season. The Cygarin Ratings has little ability to identify the impact of such variables on either team, so the best it can do is make the assumption that all continues to be as- is, and let the reader decide if and what variables may impact the game and how to apply them.

That out of the way, here we go……

IOWA STATE:

There is nothing new about the Cyclones since the end of the season, but it is still difficult to comprehend how well we have played recently. Iowa State has been playing at the level of a top-10 team since before the mid-point of the season. Furthermore, the few performances that have dropped down, can easily be identified as a few touchdown causing single-play mistakes. Shoot, even a blocked extra point resulted in two points for the opposing team, the net equivalent of a field goal. How often have you seen that?

Iowa State’s average performance for the season is about 33rd in the country. That itself is not all that bad. But to put that in perspective Iowa State was playing 66th in the country for its first three games. So, to climb to a reasonable 33rd average for the entire season required some lofty performance later on and they did. VERY lofty.

But the Cyclones playing at a 10th ranked performance is not the full picture either…Iowa State has played only three games in conference play below 10th rated. But when they did play below, they played excessively below (OU & KU), pulling their performance down to 10th overall.

Taking the OU and KU performances out of the average is impactful. So impactful that let’s just say that…unless we screw the pooch with costly individual plays against Memphis…playing at “just” a top-10 level is suggesting a bit of a cushion.

Indeed, the trend graphs suggest that Kansas State was not influenced by the weather at all, but rather the continuation of a season of continual improvement. Texas rather, was the outlier in this trend.

And not to be ignored is that Iowa State finished the season with the 11th ranked strength of schedule in the country. It’s not like the Cyclone’s performance numbers were augmented by playing an easy schedule.

MEMPHIS

Memphis is power ranked 64th in the country. Based on that and Iowa State’s season average rating, Iowa State would be favored by five points. (I do give Memphis a home field advantage). For a bowl matchup that’s a pretty satisfying margin going into the game, and represents a little over a 64% of winning.

But if you use Iowa State’s ranking of 10th, then the Cyclones are 15-point favorites, with an 85% chance of winning.

Most indications suggest that the Tigers are who they appear to be rating-wise. Their trend is reasonably flat though the season, and most of their performances have not been excessively far out of line.

The Tigers strength of schedule is where things get a bit challenging to evaluate….

Memphis has played only three teams all season that come anywhere close to the caliber of Iowa State; 16th Missouri, 21st SMU, and 46th Boise State.

All three were above average performances for the Tigers, losing to Missouri by only 7 and SMU by only 4. Pretty competitive for a team ranked 64th in the country.

The 4th best team they played though was 57thg ranked Tulane, and Memphis lost to them by ten points for their worst performance of the year. And that was at home no less.

After their top four opponents though, their strength of schedule falls out the bottom. All the rest of their schedule…75 percent of it…was against solidly entrenched sub-100 opponents.

Evaluating performance against sub-100 opponents is difficult, and in the case of Memphis they played about seven points worse against these sub-100 teams than they did their top four opponents, or about four point worse than their ranking.

There does appear to be a small trend of playing worse at the end of the year, with four of their last six games being below their expected outcome. Did they let up against weaker opponents? Hard to say, but I would guess probably so, at least to some extent.

The bottom line is, that with only four quality opponents to compare with, and all of those being in the earlier part of the year, it is hard to put a finger on what level Memphis is capable of performing at recently. But I just don’t think this Memphis team is quite as good as when we played them before.

SUMMARY:

Let’s talk potential worst case first. If you match up the best of what Memphis has to give on the field, with the average of what Iowa State has been playing in recent times, I suggest that puts this game right at a 10-point spread, with about 75 percent chance of winning.

But I could easily claim that Iowa State is playing at least five points better that even that recently, and I can also make a claim that Memphis is playing at least four points worse recently.

Take one or the other, and you have Iowa State as a 14-to15-point favorite. Take both, and you look at the Cyclones as an 18 point favorite and a 90 percent chance of winning.

I’ll go with conservative and call this a ten-point spread and a 75% chance of winning.

(In my opinion.)

  • Poll
Who's Going Bowling? (POLL REFRESH)

Are you planning to go to the Liberty Bowl?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 22.3%
  • No

    Votes: 100 63.7%
  • Still Deciding

    Votes: 22 14.0%

I thought it would be interesting to get a measure of how many on here are going to the bowl. If you are still deciding or change your mind, you can change your vote in this poll. It will stay open up until the bowl game.

For those that are going you can use this thread to give details of where you are staying, restaurants you hope to make it to, bars you you may hang out at or any other bowl festivities on your docket. Also whether you are driving, flying or how you are getting there.

I admit that I am fired up about this bowl game. It is the one that I was most likely to attend because of the easy drive.

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FOOTBALL ***Iowa State vs. Memphis Liberty Bowl game prediction thread (please read contest rules!)***

It's Memphis week, so let's get rolling with those predictions for the game against the Tigers.

1) Winner & margin of victory. (ex: Iowa State by six)
2) Total points scored. (ex: 52 points)
3) TIEBREAKER: How many passing yards will Iowa State finish with?

Iowa State is currently a 9.5-point favorite and the over/under is 57.5.

Number one will be the first determiner and then I'll take whoever gets closest to the total points. If needed, I'll go to the passing yards prediction to break a tie.

Contest winners will be rewarded as follows: first place (three free months added to your subscription); second place (two free months); third place (one free month).

***PLEASE NOTE***
You must have an active subscription to be eligible to win. Those with accounts that have been 'canceled' or that have 'lapsed' are ineligible.
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