in Big 8/12 modern history? I watched the TCU-WVU game and TCU has a pulse and is not auto-W. Tech is definitely better, but maybe the biggest shocker so far is KSU. WVU is 2-0, all on the road. Okie State might very well be the runt of the litter, but this season looks like it could be a conference battle of epic proportions. KC will be nuts.